but you know russia could be the missing element here. if they're willing to come in and shift their support and pressure assad to leave and offer him a way out maybe he'll take it. it is the first glimmer of sort of a peaceful settlement that we've seen in months. >> bill: i was at the white house briefing yesterday but also it was on monday that jay carney said unequivocally that any use -- he just -- basic, put out the warning. any use of chemical weapon crosses the red line and they've got to be prepared for the ultimate consequence. he on a wouldn't say -- he wouldn't say exactly what that was. does that mean military objection? jay carney said all options are on the table. then the president in his speech, which i think was monday as well, made the same point. there's no doubt they have given the word, right to syria that don't even try this. >> oh, i was there at the national defense university and obama's giving this general talk about cooperative -- nuclear weapons, reaffirming his vision of a world without nuclear weapons but he